Travis Brewer Ninja Warrior on Motion & Play


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Katie: Hello, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from, and I’m so excited to lastly have the ability to share this episode with you. I’m right here with Travis Brewer or simply “ninja” as we known as him on my journey to Finland with 4 Sigmatic earlier this yr. Travis is a health ninja, an entrepreneur, who’s on a mission to unfold constructive power by means of motion. His dedication to motion has led him to turn into a finalist on the hit TV present, “American Ninja Warrior” on NBC, the place my children have been acquainted with him, to carry out on the TV present, “Shark Tank” on ABC, in addition to on the World Calisthenics Championship Battle of the Bars.

He’s licensed as an teacher in animal move, Acroyoga, and was requested as a featured parkour teacher on “The Tim Ferriss Experiment” by Tim himself. As I discussed, I met him in Finland, the place he did handstands and backflips on just about every thing from sleds, to towers, to bridges. And on this episode, he talks about the advantages of motion for thoughts and physique, the significance of gratitude in each day life, how one can encourage children and adults to maneuver and play, and shares lots of his inspiring tales by means of the final couple of a long time. I actually liked this episode. I do know you’ll, too. And it’s one you’ll be able to positively hearken to with children. So, with out additional ado, let’s be part of Travis. Travis, welcome to the podcast. Thanks for being right here.

Travis: What’s up, Wellness Mama?

Katie: I’m so excited to lastly chat with you. We now have tried to schedule this a number of occasions, and I can’t wait to share you with all of my listeners. And also you’re simply so enjoyable to speak to. We met in Finland, like I discussed within the intro, and have become quick buddies. And I believe there’s a lot enjoyable that we’re gonna discuss in the present day, however I’m simply so grateful you’re right here.

Travis: I’m so nice to be right here as effectively. Assembly you on that magical journey to Finland was such a magical expertise. And it’s been actually nice to know that our friendship is gonna proceed, not solely simply over the past couple of months this yr, however for years to come back since you truthfully have been a life-changing reminiscence and expertise that I met, and it’s so superior. There’s little doubt in what you’ve constructed to date and so many individuals that you simply encourage. It’s actually, actually magical, and I’m actually excited to share with the individuals who comply with me on my journey as effectively to know extra about you. You actually simply want to achieve as many individuals on the earth. So, thanks for being you.

Katie: Thanks. I really feel the very same means about you and so grateful for our friendship. And folks could know you, as I discussed, due to “American Ninja Warrior,” and all the various stuff you’ve achieved, however I believe that’s a enjoyable place to start out. So, are you able to begin with a narrative of the way you turned a ninja?

Travis: Yeah, completely. So, as a little bit child, I simply all the time did love simply, you already know, climbing, leaping, swinging, doing the entire issues. My mother stated she discovered me on the roof as quickly as I might begin crawling. And so, as a substitute of scolding that want, she enhanced it by placing me in gymnastics. And so, I did gymnastics as a little bit child and began doing, like, staff competitors as a result of the gymnastics coach on the time was like, “Wow. This man is a pure expertise.”

So, I did gymnastics competitors and was truly ranked regionally, and began competing for nationals, however realized that that wasn’t… My full ardour was simply going all-in on simply gymnastics. I actually wanna play quite a lot of sports activities. Rising up in Houston, Texas soccer was a giant deal. So, in highschool, I switched and did soccer, soccer, lacrosse, the monitor, ended up truly being on, like, a state champion soccer staff, membership staff.

After which all I wanna do is play sports activities. However going into school, I ended up blowing out my knee. And over three years, I used to be rehabbing my knee. I tore my ACL, LCL, PCL, and all of the nerves in my knee and didn’t know actually…the physician, at one level, stated, “Chances are you’ll or could not have the ability to stroll once more.” It was actually devastating, so I had to decide on a distinct path on life.

I ended up doing the fraternity factor, that wasn’t it, and acquired a job in industrial actual property afterwards, and labored in actual property for numerous years and realized, “Hey, that is actually I don’t suppose my true calling in life.” So, fortunately the market crashed in, like, 2008, 2009 and gave me a chance to reevaluate what my ardour, and my calling, and happiness. I’d saved up some cash and had a little bit little bit of a nest egg to discover. And on the finish of the day, it was motion and in serving to others.

And so, by means of a motion and meditation follow, I spotted that I actually wanna simply encourage individuals by means of motion. And so, I used to be like, “I’ll begin an attire firm known as the Optimistic Influence Motion that offers again and makes a constructive affect.” And so, I began designing these garments and simply form of figuring out. And mainly, I began going to the native gyms in Los Angeles. There was a parkour health club that had simply opened up, and I used to be coaching there.

And I might mainly simply emulate, go monkey see, monkey do with the perfect particular person I noticed on the health club. And sooner or later, there was this man who was there and he’s like, “Hey, have you learnt who that man you’re form of following round doing monkey methods with?” “I don’t know.” “Properly, that’s Justin McGrath, the second farthest “American Ninja Warrior” ever.” And I’m like, “What’s “American Ninja Warrior?” They’re like, “Dude, it’s this TV present.

It’s on this, like, small little channel known as “G4,” however it’s an superior present. You’d be nice at it.” And I used to be like, “Okay.” “They usually’re filming right here in Venice this weekend, you need to test it out.” I lived in Venice, so I went and checked it out. And he was capable of get me on as a walk-on, and I ended up… Final second alternative, didn’t understand it was gonna occur. He form of squeezed me in after everybody had form of certified.

They form of let a pair, like, lemmings run on the finish and simply to check this one impediment that had form of damaged, they usually have been making an attempt to repair it. And I beat this damaged impediment, and beat the course sufficient to qualify for, like, the semi-finals. They usually have been like, they’d already set their prime 30, they usually didn’t suppose anybody else would qualify. And so, I made it to the subsequent spherical, they usually have been like, “Wow. This man’s fairly good.” And that was eight years in the past. And I’ve been form of concerned with the present ever since, and it was simply actually a life-changing expertise.

Katie: That’s wonderful. So, my children are additionally very a lot interested by that kind of motion and climbing every thing, leaping off every thing. For anybody who’s not acquainted, are you able to clarify what parkour is?

Travis: Yeah. So parkour is mainly the…it’s in all probability most fascinating. Like, the individuals who do the roof jumps or climb up partitions and soar from one bar to a different or swing. Principally, Parkour is the aspect of getting from level A to level B as effectively as doable. That might contain flips, or that would contain jumps, or twists, or rolls. And so, it’s mainly the artwork of simply with the ability to transfer as fluidly as doable.

After which additionally, lots of people are throwing extra methods into it, so that they’re studying how one can do, like, flip twists, double flips, and so on. And so, it’s actually cool. In case you have you by no means seen it, simply google parkour and probably the most wonderful movies will pop up. There’s a very cool man named Pasha the Boss or Jesse La Aptitude. They do some actually superior stuff.

Katie: Did you’ve gotten stage fright? Like, simply leaping into one thing that quick with, like, nearly no time for psychological preparation?

Travis: Oh yeah, completely. The primary time I did “Ninja Warrior,” once more, I didn’t suppose I used to be gonna get on the present. They’d run everybody the primary day, however the final 10 individuals couldn’t run as a result of this impediment broke. So that they ran the final 10 individuals the subsequent day, supposedly on the semi-final day. After which, so that they wanted mainly some take a look at individuals to form of simply make it run after which run these final official individuals. And so, after these individuals had run, they let only one or two individuals go.

And I had no preparation. No, truly, like… There was possibly, like, 100 individuals who they might have selected from, and I form of acquired randomly chosen, and I needed to simply go instantly. And so, I mainly made the highest 30, however they do a reverse order. So, I simply squeezed in. So, actually, they have been delayed. So I ran, I made it, and certified, after which I instantly needed to run once more. And so, I used to be simply, like, actually catching my breath, and I needed to run once more. So, there was no actual alternative to even put together if I wished to. I used to be similar to, “Oh my gosh, simply go.” It was that, I wanna say combat or flight mode, the place you’re similar to, “Ah, simply go,” and it’s important to simply…that is the way you’re gonna react in a sure scenario.

And I believe it’s actually nice for any human to form of get ready for these kind of moments in any form of competitors or any form of, like, expertise the place, you already know, it’s important to react, not on simply psychological preparation, however simply on bodily skill or simply response time as a result of, you already know, it’s arduous to arrange for that except you set your self in these conditions. However it actually will get to know who you might be, you already know, and a scary, or life or dying scenario, or simply an impediment, you already know, that that you must overcome, that is the way you’re gonna react in sure conditions.

Katie: That is sensible. And it form of goes together with one thing I’ve heard you point out in passing and likewise examine that you simply’ve written about, which is your warrior philosophy. So, are you able to clarify what that’s?

Travis: Yeah, completely. On this planet of philosophy, it’s simply, you already know, how one can dwell, primarily like a peaceable warrior. So, it’s residing with the utmost integrity of selling peace but in addition, like, you’re conscious who can form of step in. So it’s not likely in search of the combat however in search of preventing for the best to be your greatest or to be the perfect round you. So, it’s a chance to be a greater model of your self. You’re preventing towards your self to be higher day-after-day. And so, utilizing that mentality of your thoughts, physique, and spirit, that every one is a degree which you can degree up day-after-day is form of the sport. And it’s simply making an attempt to reset your basis of your backside line or increase your ceiling day-after-day which you can step as much as the subsequent degree.

Katie: I like that. And one other factor that I actually picked up on from you in Finland and have included in my very own life since then, and that you simply discuss a lot is the significance of play. And I do know this can be a large ardour for you, and it’s one thing, I believe, children naturally accomplish that splendidly till we prepare it out of them. And also you accomplish that a lot work to, not solely hold children transferring and in contact with their our bodies, and studying by means of motion, but in addition to get adults to return and discover ways to play. So, let’s discuss among the ways in which you do this on the earth and a few ways in which we as dad and mom can encourage our children to maintain that going.

Travis: Yeah, completely. The artwork of play is so vital. I believe we’re simply people, usually, and people could be any age. So, the aspect of play actually, I believe, invokes, not solely enjoyable however creativity. And taking part in open air can actually assist reconnect you to your thoughts and physique, which I believe connects you to your spirit as effectively. So, the power simply to play is one thing that I’ve discovered ardour in and wanna unfold all through the world.

Like, majority of my exercises are play-based, within the sense which you can gamify nearly any form of exercise. You recognize, I’ve all of the respect on the earth for the individuals who go to the health club and similar to get indignant or get mad and, you already know, kill themselves for, like, an hour. However my philosophy is, you already know, you’ll be able to have enjoyable with what you’re doing on the similar time. And so, including components, you already know, including methods, or human connection can actually be wonderful.

I’ve actually been fascinated with Acroyoga, which is a partner-based yoga, an acrobatic follow, the place you will get individuals to actually simply, you already know, stand in your toes. Folks can stand in your fingers. You are able to do, like, push-ups on prime of one another, that form of stuff. So, it’s actually an adult-based play, and yoga, and acrobatic coaching expertise. I’ve additionally been doing lots of calisthenics, which is mainly with the ability to transfer your weight effectively and successfully as doable. So, you’re not likely weight-training, it’s your pull-ups, it’s your push-ups, it’s your jumps, after which gamifying that.

In order that’s why I believe “Ninja Warrior” is available in so useful is mainly that you must overcome obstacles. And we all the time have obstacles in life. That’s why I believe Ninja Warrior is so nice is since you mainly have a really tough impediment. You recognize, 99.9% of us all fail finally on the present. So, when you fail, how do you react from failure? How do you prepare to get higher? How do you method a really tough scenario, actually, encompasses who you might be as an individual.

You recognize, even in entrepreneurship, you already know, in working a enterprise, there’s failures day-after-day. In , in working a household, you already know, there’s gonna be issues that don’t occur as you need them to. However studying how one can react to these conditions and take a distinct method is actually, like, a real key to life that we are able to by no means cease studying or can by no means be too good at. And that’s why I believe, like, impediment course coaching is so nice. It’s like set a really tough purpose and discover ways to be higher at failing ahead.

Katie: I like that a lot. And it jogs my memory of a few of my favourite quotes, one from Marcus Aurelius, that “The obstacle to the best way turns into the best way,” or like, as Ryan Holliday places it, “The impediment is the best way.” I imply, that’s very actually true in an impediment course. You need to get by means of the impediment to get to the tip. However it’s such a metaphor for, such as you stated, every thing about life. One in every of our household motto is “You have been made to do arduous issues.”

And our children right here say that on a regular basis. And it’s gotten me in bother a few occasions once they’re like gone cliff leaping or issues like that, they usually’re like, “Come on, mother.” And I’m like, “No, no, I’m good.” They usually’re like, “Mother, you have been made to do arduous issues,” and I needed to do it. However I believe there’s additionally a very vital aspect to play that lots of this era has misplaced, which is, it’s actually vital for, like, vestibular growth and for fundamental psychological growth for the children to be the other way up, and to have falls, and to study their very own boundaries, and to study threat evaluation.

And lots of children don’t get to maturity having realized that. I do know that’s a deficiency I really feel like I’ve had and I’ve, due to you, been studying issues like handstands, and pull-ups, and simply issues that get me out of my consolation zone, however I really feel like play is a very enjoyable option to truly construct on so many vital expertise. And it’s one which lots of dad and mom possibly don’t prioritize in a world the place teachers are extra forward-facing. So, what are some ways in which dad and mom can begin incorporating these enjoyable components of play and obstacles with household, and even for adults?

Travis: Yeah, completely. Once more, one of many elements I touched on is, like, what you say with play. Like, what I like to show in individuals isn’t just to work out, however primarily, you already know, how one can get the other way up and how one can fall effectively actually is the inspiration for studying how one can play. And, you already know, each grownup ought to know how one can have that basis. And ways in which we are able to, as a household, or interacts in a playful means, once more, one of many locations I touched on was Acroyoga., or in the event you google Acroyoga, or Acropedia, there’s a bunch of various, like, methods to get into these several types of playful experiences. Or in the event you look on the Fb teams, there’s in all probability an Acroyoga group someplace in your neighborhood. There’s a bunch of people that educate everywhere in the world. It’s actually superior. And that’s an all-ages, all-skill degree expertise the place you’re studying how one can counterbalance or, you already know, push and pull, and soar, and play collectively. In order that’s a very nice one. There are additionally a rising variety of ninja gyms and parkour gyms all the world over, and I completely recommend trying into a kind of.

There’s a bunch of Nationwide Ninja League as one other ninja league that’s in several gyms throughout the nation. I’m a giant advocate of… When you wanna do impediment course coaching, try a ninja health club or try these ninja leagues. These are tremendous cool. And people are actually all age teams. These are from six or seven years previous all the best way as much as 70-year olds. On Ninja Warrior, there are 70-year olds who’re doing these things. It’s fairly unimaginable. It’s simply a good way to play, prepare, dangle, swing, transfer. Like motion as a follow, motion is drugs. Even to stroll across the block, how one can roll, how one can join with your loved ones by means of the artwork of motion, is tremendous vital. And I believe that stimulates us as people to be higher. With the beginning of my attire firm, it’s inviting individuals to maneuver.

Yeah, mainly, the artwork of motion is so vital for people, and I believe that transferring is one thing that each one people ought to put focus extra into their life. You recognize, individuals could or will not be turned on by figuring out, however I believe simply even a motion follow is one thing that’s so inviting and a playful motion follow on prime of that.

Katie: I like that. And I’ve additionally tried Acroyoga at your suggestion since Finland. And particularly, like, there are such a lot of components of it, however the one the place I acquired fully picked up off the bottom and I used to be, like, balancing on prime of somebody’s toes, the primary 12 seconds, I used to be like, “No, no, I don’t do that. I’ve belief points. I don’t get off the bottom like this.” However it was wonderful. After I let go of that, I used to be nearly in, like, a flow-type state.

And it was actually, like, a tremendous expertise, and I might do it once more in a heartbeat. However yeah, a kind of enjoyable issues I don’t suppose most individuals would actually ever thought to strive they usually’re obtainable in every single place now. I additionally wanna change gears and speak a little bit bit extra about Pi Motion and the place the title comes from. As a result of in Finland, we came upon that you simply and I’ve one other commonality, which is that we’re each nerds and we’re each Mensa. And I like Pi due to the maths tie-in. So, are you able to clarify the place the title, the place that got here from?

Travis: Yeah, thanks. You recognize, simply form of diving deeper into, you already know, what’s my function in life? You recognize, after I’d misplaced my job in actual property, I actually put an enormous deal with trying internally. And so, I began a meditation follow. And actually, there’s a e book known as “Autobiography of a Yogi,” written by Yogananda, and this was a e book that Steve Jobs had really useful individuals learn on his deathbed and gave to his funeral.

And so, I stated, “Man, if Steve Jobs discovered this e book vital, possibly I ought to test it out.” So, in studying that e book, it’s this Yogi who got here to America and mainly was educating this self-actualization and self-realization follow. And it’s mainly trying inside what’s your function in life? How do you share that with others? And since I used to be, you already know, a few months previous, I liked simply climbing, and taking part in, and transferring, and that’s what I wished to share.

And, in that non secular follow, I used to be like, “How can I share this to the world with out getting too, let’s name it, hippy-dippy, too California out right here, for the remainder of the world?” So, what spirit meant to me or what the universe meant to me is one thing that’s, you already know, ever-changing, all the time rising. And so, I exploit the analogy of Pi, Pi being that, you already know, unending quantity, a logo that individuals can acknowledge everywhere in the world.

And utilizing the initials of Pi, I wished to unfold, you already know, a constructive power and utilizing the I as the inner power that we have now inside and spreading that constructive power to individuals everywhere in the world or utilizing the analogy, once more, of Pi as in constructive affect. How can we make a constructive affect by means of motion all through the world? So the model is Pi Motion, and we’re spreading constructive power and making a constructive affect by means of the artwork of motion.

And particularly, we design Activewear. It’s made in America, and we’re utilizing both natural or recycled supplies in lots of the stuff that we do to provide again and respect the planet. And likewise, to provide again to individuals, we donate or put aside three.14% to our nonprofit. And our nonprofit will go and construct extra motion parks everywhere in the world. A giant life-changing expertise, for me, is when I discovered the unique Muscle Seashore, and the Muscle Seashore in Santa Monica, in Venice, California, and simply that tradition of health play acrobatics open air and the neighborhood that it brings individuals collectively, and the respect it has, not just for the land but in addition coming collectively and taking part in.

That actually has modified my life and is a focus for what I do. And I used to be like, “I might like to see extra of this around the globe.” So we put aside…we truly went to Jamaica and constructed a ninja playground, motion playground out in Jamaica. We’re finalizing a prototype to assist get extra of those out of doors motion parks to completely different locations everywhere in the world. And we actually simply wish to have a mission, and a model, and a neighborhood of people who find themselves like-minded, who simply wish to transfer and dwell with a constructive psychology mindset and that simply like to play. You recognize, simply being playful in motion is actually simply the ethos of the model.

And we’re actually grateful to see that lots of the highest “American Ninja Warrior” opponents have been sporting them on the present for the final couple of years, from children to grownup. Drew Drechsel simply received “American Ninja Warrior.” Congrats, Drew. He was solely the second particular person ever to finish the complete stage 4 of “American Ninja Warrior.” We truly simply did a pant collaboration. You may go test it out. He has his real-life ninja emblem on there. And, you already know, he’s such a giant advocate for the game and, you already know, acknowledged worldwide as somebody who’s simply actually taken the artwork of, you already know, Ninja Warrior and made a profitable life out of it.

And it’s actually cool that we’re on this age of social media, Instagram, YouTube, the place you actually can do what you need. Like, once I graduated school, these choices weren’t obtainable. And fortuitously, it didn’t cease me from persevering with to do what I wanna do and proceed to comply with that dream or listening to my internal information of, “That is what my ardour is.” It’s been actually stunning to see social media has been capable of assist improve and join a neighborhood like that everywhere in the world, and we’re capable of share and join different individuals. And it’s so stunning to see individuals, now greater than ever, with the ability to simply comply with no matter they’re calling is in life and actually discover neighborhood round it.

Katie: I like that you simply introduced up Muscle Seashore as a result of we acquired an opportunity to go to there earlier this yr with our children, truly, they usually thought it was the perfect playground they’d ever seen of their whole lives. And I believe issues like these form of motion parks, such as you’ve talked about a number of occasions, they’re the antidote to so many issues in society in a number of methods. Like, everyone knows most individuals aren’t transferring sufficient and we’re too sedentary. And as a substitute of figuring out, that makes it actually simply play, which I believe is a large step towards making individuals extra prone to do it.

However you additionally stated one in every of my favourite issues, which is that it’s a neighborhood there. And I believe that can be an actual antidote to so many issues that we’re seeing in our world is there’s an absence of actual neighborhood with actual individuals. Like, there’s tons of on-line communities however there’s that lack of actual human interplay, actual human connection, and actual human contact, which is one other wonderful thing about these motion communities, and play, and Acroyoga, is that you simply’re interacting with different individuals.

So, you guys have an unimaginable neighborhood that you simply’ve constructed into this. Do you’ve gotten any suggestions for individuals fostering that in their very own areas? As a result of that’s one thing I’ve now additionally present in my space, however it took work and it took form of constructing. So, are there any suggestions you’ve gotten for people who find themselves making an attempt to foster that in their very own lives?

Travis: Yeah, with that, the one wonderful thing about on-line communities are there are actually nice methods to make use of on-line communities to additionally meet up in particular person, you already know. I join with some individuals on Instagram, for instance, which are simply, you already know, loving both what I do or I discover inspiring what they do. And so, once I journey and meet, it’s an ideal alternative to share the artwork of play and what we’re doing. Like I stated, additionally, there are ninja gems, actually, you already know, in all 50 states now, and ninja warriors. And, you already know, Germany, Australia, completely different elements, you already know, like, Europe, Asia, like there’s competitions, and the present is everywhere in the world.

You recognize, I’ve flown out internationally for various experiences, you already know, within the Caribbean to Australia simply to carry out, or compete, or meet and greet. It’s on the market in the event you begin trying. And likewise, I assure you if you wish to be, you already know, the one who spearhead one thing in your neighborhood as effectively, I assure you that there’s, you already know, individuals by means of meetup or completely different organizations who would actually be interested by stuff like that. It’s actually just like the… It’s not a fringe underground factor anymore. There actually is… You recognize, any main and small metropolis throughout America has some form of motion on Ninja Parkour, group meetup of their space now. It’s actually superior, or Acroyoga.

Katie: Yeah, for positive, Acroyoga. I believe, you’ll be able to even simply Google that. I discovered it in my space, even. Let’s speak a little bit bit extra concerning the significance of body weight train. You talked about that you simply did lots of that over, like, lifting weights. So, my questions could be, what are the advantages of body weight particular train, and is it protected for teenagers to do? I do know that query is gonna come from dad and mom who’re listening. And I do know I’ve heard, like, you already know, children ought to carry weights earlier than too younger of an age, however can they safely do motion involving their physique weight at a younger age?

Travis: Oh, completely. So, body weight coaching or calisthenics coaching is actually, I believe, a a lot safer means of coaching than weights. I nearly strictly use body weight coaching. And why I believe that’s so efficient is it truly is, like, you already know, if I’m studying how a lot I can bench press or what number of pushups I can do, push-ups are gonna be rather more related to what I’m doing in a each day life. Working in your pull-ups, engaged on the power to climb, engaged on the power to swing, soar roll, makes a lot extra sense than how a lot I can deadlift or how a lot I can squat. Like, these items have been designed, you already know, for soccer, and like, you already know, changing into an even bigger, and quicker, and stronger.

However, you already know, not all of us are gonna be linemen in NFL. Like, you already know, I believe studying how one can climb a rock-climbing wall might be or climb a tree is gonna be rather more, like, efficient in your each day life than…except you actually are simply making an attempt to be an expert soccer participant. So, I actually suppose that it’s positively a simpler means of coaching. And likewise, it allows you to be extra related. I see lots of people who specialise in weight coaching of their mobility. You recognize, Hunter Health can let you know all about particular coaching with that. That, like, you might be tremendous hyper-focused on one aspect of your physique and that energy, and it actually doesn’t a holistic method to transferring your physique. And so, I actually suppose that calisthenics, yoga, and a playful follow is actually what retains us simpler as people.

Katie: I positively agree. And I’ll put a hyperlink to Hunter Health within the present notes as effectively as a result of he’s one other good friend from Finland, who we each love.

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Katie: I believe additionally one thing I observed in Finland and that I’ve observed in watching “American Ninja Warrior” is that a part of what makes it so enjoyable and inspiring is that you’re exhibiting individuals what’s doable, and also you’re inspiring them to strive issues that possibly they hadn’t thought-about that their physique might do. And I believe that there’s one thing actually simply wonderful within the human expertise when that occurs.

It’s like the primary time that, I imagine, was Roger Bannister ran a sub-four-minute mile. Nobody thought they might do it. After which as quickly as he did, so many extra individuals did. And so, you guys doing these unimaginable issues, even on TV or in your native communities, it reveals children that their our bodies are capable of do these items, and it’s actually inspiring. I additionally know from Finland, there have been so many tales that you’d inform me, and I might be like, “No.” And also you’d be like, “Right here’s an image.” So, I wanna undergo a few of your enjoyable ones only for inspiration, in the event you don’t thoughts, beginning with, what are in all probability the strangest locations you’ve gotten ever achieved a handstand?

Travis: Properly, you bought to see in all probability one in every of my most memorable handstands of all time, was after we have been in Finland, we had the chance of seeing the Northern Lights, which, I imply, as you already know, was one of the crucial wonderful experiences I had ever seen in my life. You recognize, there’s no assure that we’d get to see them, and we have been actually, you already know, in that area for a few days. And, you already know, I believe our second night time there, you already know, we have been capable of see the lights. That was simply loopy. And so, I used to be like, “We’re staying in an igloo, we’re watching the Northern Lights, I’ve to do a handstand on an igloo.”

So, getting capable of, not solely do a handstand on an igloo whereas Hunter Health is sitting on the igloo as effectively was nonetheless in all probability one in every of my most memorable ones of all time. One other one being, I had acquired a telephone name, my buddy, Fashionable Tarzan is an superior man. You also needs to comply with in the event you wanna be impressed by parkour, ninja, and Acroyoga. He’s a greatest good friend of mine and Fashionable Tarzan on Instagram. And we get a telephone name, and he’s like, “Hey, we’ve acquired these individuals from Turkey, from Istanbul, who wanna movie a Toyota industrial, they usually want some loopy, you already know, ninjas and Acroyogi’s to come back and do some cool parkour stuff.”

They usually’ll fly us on the market. However they’ve this trick, you already know, they need us to do these cool methods on the truck. You recognize, run up the truck, soar on it, flip off it, that form of stuff. I’m like,” Yeah, we are able to do this.” They usually’re like, “Are you able to handstand on a transferring automobile?” And I’m like, “Yeah, we are able to handstand on a transferring automobile.” Like, “Properly, we have now this stunt driver who can drive it up a ramp and get it on its facet to wheels and stability the automobile. Do you suppose you would do a handstand on that?”

I’m like, “I don’t know if that’s doable.” And I attempted to Google it. I had by no means seen anybody do that earlier than, so I didn’t actually have a visible, like, reference. There’s positively not how-to video on how one can do a handstand on a transferring automobile on two wheels. And so, I used to be like, “Properly, you already know, I can test it out once I get there.” And so, after doing a few take a look at runs, this man was not very constant in any respect, which didn’t assist with the opportunity of making this factor occur. However after a few days of testing, he acquired extra constant, and I acquired extra comfy with simply being sideways in a automobile.

And lengthy story quick, we discovered the best window, and I construct up the arrogance to do this. And I did a handstand on the Toyota truck whereas it’s bouncing on two wheels. And you too can click on the hyperlink, and you may see a hyperlink to that video. However I believe I’d by no means seen any of us do this ever on the earth, so is perhaps one of many first individuals who ever achieved that. So, that was fairly memorable.

After which additionally the tallest constructing on the time in Los Angeles, on the sting of the Grand Canyon, and likewise, like, these have been memorable experiences but in addition simply, like, get into handstands with individuals everywhere in the world has been actually wonderful as effectively, you already know, stunning sunsets, stunning buildings, and so on., even simply on, like, lifeguard towers and stuff. However simply the power to get the other way up and know your limits and with the ability to create artwork is one thing I’ve been tremendous passionate, the place discover, in a bizarre means, I discover my Zen.

Katie: And if I’m remembering, there was additionally on an alligator? Did that occur?

Travis: Oh, yeah. Probably the most harmful has ever achieved. Folks ask me on a regular basis, and, you already know, like I stated, I’ve achieved, you already know, tall buildings and transferring automobiles. However probably the most harmful one ever, I used to be in Ghana, Africa, serving to with generosity water, restore water to areas of the nation that don’t have working water. And whereas we have been there, we went to this place the place they’d an alligator farm. They usually have been these alligators that we have been with.

And I used to be like, “Man, I actually, actually wanna do a handstand over an alligator,” which is kind of harmful as a result of, you already know, my head is actually near his head as effectively. However I used to be capable of efficiently do a handstand over an alligator and can in all probability by no means do this once more. However that was in all probability probably the most harmful handstand I’ve ever achieved simply because there was not a lot…it was a partner-based motion. I needed to belief my companion simply as a lot as I can belief myself.

Katie: Wow, yeah, no. My most harmful handstand ever is, like, towards the wall in my bed room the place there’s no hazard concerned. So, that’s wonderful. Like I stated, there’s so many sides to your persona. You additionally, if I’m remembering appropriately, have a few world data. So, you gotta inform that story as effectively.

Travis: Oh, yeah. So, I used to be doing an activation with this firm known as WORLDZ with a Z, they usually carry collectively lots of wonderful leaders, and CMOs, and CEOs, and so on. And I used to be educating at this occasion. And after educating the occasion, the subsequent yr, they’re like, “We wish you to come back again, however we attempt to break a world document yearly. Do you suppose you would break a world document? We now have Guinness World Data coming.” And I’m like, “Yeah, I believe so.”

They’re like, “Principally, you’ve gotten, like, two days to determine it out.” And I used to be like, “Oh, my gosh.” So, I began researching simply handstand data, you already know, CrossFit data, several types of gymnastics data that I believed have been doable. And I actually wished to, you already know, clearly break a document, however I additionally wished to share the expertise, you already know, with a companion or good friend. I used to be actually making an attempt to consider, like, a bunch one which may very well be achieved as effectively. So, I discovered one which was tremendous distinctive. I discovered one, primarily, that concerned stability in a plank place.

So, think about you’re on these drugs BOSU balls, on the drugs balls that transfer round, proper? So, you’ve gotten 4 drugs balls. You will have one on every hand, one on every foot. After which from there, you discover your stability level, you get right into a plank, and then you definately carry up one hand. So, then you definately’re in a plank, which is with one arm raised. So it’s a three-point plank, and then you definately’re additionally making an attempt to stability your self on the ball. And I used to be capable of beat the world document. They’d an adjudicator come down, and we videotaped it, and there was an enormous crowd round, and was capable of beat the world document by I believe 20-something seconds, which is fairly loopy.

After which I discovered one other world document, which was known as a companion push-up. Now, think about, like, you’re within the push-up place after which you’ve gotten one other companion who’s 180 from you. So, mainly, your toes are touching one another and your fingers are out reverse of your toes. After which from there, you carry your toes up and you set them on one another’s again. So, you’re making actually, like, a human bridge, neither one in every of your toes are touching the bottom.

They’re simply on one another’s shoulder blades, kind of. After which from there, you do synchronized push-ups. And I believe the world document was set by two skilled crossfitters on the time, and I believe the document was 27 or 28. And we have been capable of unofficially do 34. However then once they got here again, they formally counted 31 of them, I believe, to be official. So, we set a brand new world document doing companion push-ups with my good friend Cesar Sosa, and he’s an superior man. It’s best to positively comply with him on Instagram as effectively. He simply modified his… Match Like Sosa is his new Instagram, so try Match Like Sosa.

However we set that document as effectively. And so, yeah, that was distinctive and fairly loopy expertise. After which you need to positively try Ninja Natalie. She simply set a world document as effectively for the rope climb at Muscle Seashore. Ninja Natalie on Instagram is a pricey good friend, and he or she set a world document as effectively for the quickest, I believe, quick rope climb. And she or he is simply an unimaginable human who’s simply utilizing the artwork of play and motion to encourage the world. So, yeah, it’s been fairly loopy to know that buddies all through the neighborhood are setting the usual of playfulness and energy on the similar time.

Katie: I like that. And I wished to verify, towards the tip, we alter focus a little bit bit and talked about one other factor that I’ve absolutely built-in in my life since Finland impressed by you, which is, little each day reminders of gratitude. And I believe this additionally ties into Pi and three.14. So, are you able to discuss gratitude in your each day life and your gratitude reminder?

Travis: Yeah, completely. You recognize, and simply going deeper into, like, you already know, the purpose of life, we all the time have good days and dangerous days. You recognize, nobody’s life is ideal, however there’s magnificence in understanding the great in every thing that we do. So, a gratitude follow is a good way to try this. And irrespective of how dangerous your day is, let’s say you’re sitting in visitors, otherwise you’re sick, or it’s simply not your day, however there’s all the time a lesson to be realized, or there’s all the time one thing nice inside that scenario. So, as a substitute of a each day reminder, what I’ve achieved is you choose a time that’s related for you.

For me, I exploit three:14, which is, you already know, the primary three digits of Pi, and I’ve a each day reminder that goes off at the moment. And at any time when I’m doing invitations and alternative to only take a minute of gratitude. And so, you already know, I may very well be actually in Finland with Wellness Mama, and Hunter Health, and Paleo Chef, having the time of my life. We simply acquired achieved, you already know, seeing some reindeer, and I’m actually grateful for that, or I actually might simply be, you already know, sitting in visitors in LA and be, you already know, like, “Why am I sitting on this visitors? However no less than I’m in LA, no less than I’ve a automobile, no less than, you already know, like, I’m capable of be respiratory. I’m capable of transfer.” You recognize, like, there’s all the time a chance to take a chance to specific gratitude.

And so, I believe when you begin that follow, it’s actually superior to see, you already know, the universe or spirit form of, like, possibly educate a lesson or level an individual or an expertise that that you must study in that day at the moment. And it’s been actually superior to only have that mindset and mentality, and I encourage everybody to only strive it. Strive it for every week and see how your life adjustments in the event you prefer it or not. And I inform just about anybody who’s round me, at that second, when my alarm goes off at three:14, and I’m grateful to say that individuals have additionally adopted that follow.

And these individuals dwell in several time zones everywhere in the world, so I usually will get a message, you already know, at 5:14, 7:14, you already know, like 11:14 from buddies the world over be like, “Hey, I’m simply considering of you. I’m actually grateful for you, or I’m actually grateful for this expertise.” So, choose a time that’s related for you. It may very well be 11:11, it may very well be, you already know, 7:11, it doesn’t actually matter, however simply choose a date and time that’s related for you and begin a gratitude follow. And, I believe it’ll carry pleasure into your life.

Katie: Yeah, I find it irresistible. It’s a enjoyable reminder. And, like, you already know, that if it goes off and I’m in a bunch elsewhere, I’ll ask all people else what they’re grateful for as effectively. And it’s enjoyable to form of, like, shake individuals up at first, like what? However simply the complete focus and the power of the group to all people simply be thankful for a second, it’s wonderful.

Travis: Yeah, it’s additionally a great excuse for no matter your alarm goes off. You may shift it to them.

Katie: And for households, like one other factor we do is, at dinner timer, as a result of we attempt to make household dinner a precedence, we’ll ask the children what they’re grateful for as effectively, which is, you already know, for anyone’s who has children, that’s a great time to check-in and make it a part of your each day routine that means.

Travis: Oh, yeah. I used to be gonna say, you already know, with my companion, Little Beast Mode on Instagram, she is a superb soul. We educate Acroyoga, and motion, and play collectively, however she had the concept of beginning a follow of doing three stuff you’re grateful for earlier than you go to mattress each night time. And so, that’s been a very pleasing follow as effectively that I like sharing that option to do it. You recognize, both begin your day or finish your day with that follow as effectively.

Katie: I like that too. And, as we get near the tip of our time, a few questions that I like to wrap up with. The primary being, if there’s a e book or numerous books which have actually impacted your life, if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Travis: Yeah. “Autobiography of a Yogi” is one e book that actually remodeled my life. Additionally, how one can get into move states or simply move analysis, usually. So, Steve Kotler and Jamie Wheal are two inspirations in my life, they usually wrote a e book known as “Stealing Hearth,” which I positively advocate. It’s an ideal e book. I had the chance to work with Tim Ferriss, and figuring out him, and dealing on his TV present, “The Tim Ferriss Experiment,” and likewise the books that he wrote, I can positively attest to him being a tremendous particular person. And he actually totally researches every thing that he does.

So, something by Tim Ferriss is actually superior. After which there was a e book known as “Conversations with God,” which I believe was a gorgeous, like, a non secular and dying e book, attending to know who you might be higher. After which “Seven Religious Legal guidelines of Success” by Deepak Chopra. Once more, one other wonderful human. And it’s loopy how the world works. I’ve been studying this man’s books for years.

After which sooner or later, somebody on his staff came upon what I do on social media, simply sharing what I like, they usually requested me to be part of his app known as Jiyo, which is a conscious, curated neighborhood group on-line, which I positively advocate taking a look at Jiyo, and acquired to satisfy him, and was even requested to be a human hologram on stage with him talking on the artwork of mindfulness one time.

And it’s actually loopy to, not solely simply be studying his books and every thing, and I get to satisfy him to truly assembly him and him residing as much as each expectation of being such an exquisite advocate to mindfulness and the analysis of residing a cheerful non secular life. He’s superior as effectively. So, these are the individuals that actually encourage me, and I actually suppose they’re doing nice stuff on the earth within the books that they write as effectively.

Katie: Such nice suggestions, and I’m with you on all these. Tim Ferriss’s “Four-Hour Workweek”, I believe, modified the trajectory of my grownup life and led to “Wellness Mama.” So, very grateful for him. And yeah, Stephen and Jamie’s, “Stealing Hearth” is an interesting learn. I’ll be certain I’ll hyperlink to all of the books that you simply talked about within the present notes at So, in the event you guys are exercising or driving, don’t fear about writing them down. Simply head over to the present notes. And Travis, lastly, any parting recommendation you wanna go away with listeners in the present day, and the place can they discover you to remain in contact?

Travis: Yeah, truthfully, my parting recommendation, make a constructive affect in your motion and something that you simply do. Basically, motion could be something that you simply love. I imply, it actually can simply be strolling the canine. It may be working a marathon. It actually doesn’t matter what it’s, however discover a motion follow and get open air and join with different people or join with your self, is actually an impediment and a chance that can by no means get previous.

It’s one thing that can all the time discover profit in what you do. You may by no means be too good at that, and perceive that there are all the time gonna be obstacles in life. So, it’s the way you method the impediment earlier than, throughout, and after is actually the skillset that, you already know, that you must study as a human or as a ninja, no matter you wanna name your self. And, you already know, don’t take your self too critically. Discover ways to play and you’ll find pleasure in all of the issues that you simply do.

Yow will discover me at is my web site, in addition to is my Instagram. And people are in all probability the simplest methods to get in contact with me. And thanks for anybody who continues to comply with my journey. We can be persevering with to advertise lots of the motion that we do. And the web site for my attire firm is or And, we’ll do a particular low cost code for all of the listeners right here as effectively as a result of we actually wanna say thanks to everybody that’s following the Wellness Mama as a result of she actually does know among the greatest issues on the earth and we simply wanna share that well being and wellness to you guys. So, thanks, a lot.

Katie: Thanks a lot, Travis. I’ll be certain the hyperlink and the low cost code are within the present notes. My children and I each love the ninja pants, truly my husband too. The entire household wears them. They’re so comfy. My children simply want they made them in, like, dimension three-year-olds, however all of us find it irresistible. I’ll be certain the hyperlinks are there. You guys can verify them out. They’re actually in all probability probably the most comfy pants in the complete world. And Travis, I like you for being right here. I actually respect all that you simply’re doing to encourage children and adults to maneuver on the earth and to share gratitude, and I’m so grateful that you simply shared time with us in the present day.

Travis: Properly, thanks a lot Wellness Mama. You actually are such a tremendous, wonderful soul. You recognize, I think about you my non secular mama. You’re so nice in every thing that you simply do, and I actually am excited to proceed to be buddies and work collectively for so long as I’m taking part in round on this planet. So, thanks.

Katie: Thanks. And, in that spirit of gratitude, thank all of you for listening and sharing your Most worthy asset, your time, with us in the present day. We’re so grateful that you simply have been right here. and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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